sign69 (4:41:40 PM): kwash and kwash again
SobriquetNecrosi (4:41:48 PM): guh
sign69 (4:41:52 PM): yup
sign69 (4:42:21 PM): do you actually go for the energy shift stuff…?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:42:37 PM): Meaning what
SobriquetNecrosi (4:42:42 PM): go for?
sign69 (4:42:47 PM): the end times or whatever
SobriquetNecrosi (4:43:06 PM): Do I think armageddon is approaching?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:43:24 PM): Uhm, not in a religious sense, NO
sign69 (4:43:25 PM): it makes sense for me because like what else have I been doing these last few years… ;-)
SobriquetNecrosi (4:43:48 PM): I think humans are fucking up the earth in a very bad way
SobriquetNecrosi (4:44:00 PM): So the end could most certainly sneak up on us at any time
sign69 (4:44:17 PM): we’re not in line on our thoughts on this then
sign69 (4:44:44 PM): there is so much of it that triggers my disbelief mechanisms
sign69 (4:45:07 PM): but then I look at my own situation and I feel there is definitely something going on
sign69 (4:46:16 PM): the earth is still immense compared to human mess
SobriquetNecrosi (4:46:31 PM): The earth will be done with us, before we are done with it
sign69 (4:46:35 PM): but it is true people aren’t very together about gaia etc
SobriquetNecrosi (4:46:36 PM): Space cannot save us
sign69 (4:46:51 PM): we are part of it dear
sign69 (4:47:07 PM): earth includes our sorry asses as does space
SobriquetNecrosi (4:47:48 PM): Uhm we are a species ON it
SobriquetNecrosi (4:47:58 PM): Just as other species die out
SobriquetNecrosi (4:48:01 PM): So shall we
sign69 (4:48:10 PM): that isn’t news
sign69 (4:48:24 PM): it is too remote
SobriquetNecrosi (4:48:34 PM): Well, it was what you were asking. Do I believe in an end?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:48:36 PM): Definitely
sign69 (4:48:41 PM): I am talking about our times
SobriquetNecrosi (4:48:43 PM): Not a religious crash and bang one though
SobriquetNecrosi (4:48:55 PM): THAT is far too outlandish…too self important
sign69 (4:48:59 PM): our minds and spirits or whatever
sign69 (4:49:09 PM): nope
sign69 (4:49:19 PM): it is all part of the whole
SobriquetNecrosi (4:49:21 PM): Then we differ
sign69 (4:49:25 PM): yup
sign69 (4:49:29 PM): I guess
SobriquetNecrosi (4:50:08 PM): s’ok
SobriquetNecrosi (4:50:11 PM): hehehe
sign69 (4:51:19 PM): so you don’t get any buzz about the coming years and 2012 etc
SobriquetNecrosi (4:51:38 PM): Nope. Not going to happen
sign69 (4:51:43 PM): k
sign69 (4:52:01 PM): what isn’t going to happen?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:52:12 PM): Impending doom
sign69 (4:52:19 PM): doom?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:52:33 PM): yeah
sign69 (4:52:45 PM): in what sense doom?
SobriquetNecrosi (4:53:07 PM): Whatever changes are ahead…is not seen by humans. We have proven this by our advances in time
SobriquetNecrosi (4:53:28 PM): Doom as in the end times
sign69 (4:54:04 PM): transition etc nothing is going on of any particular significance
SobriquetNecrosi (4:54:31 PM): Well, let me ask you…what do you think is going to happen on 2012
sign69 (4:54:37 PM): so like all those who are going on about it are just milking another fake cow
SobriquetNecrosi (4:55:09 PM): And after you answer that…ask yourself why you believe it
sign69 (4:55:14 PM): the catholic church will collapse
sign69 (4:55:24 PM): the earth will rotate differently
sign69 (4:55:35 PM): I’ll get an air-conditioned apartment
sign69 (4:56:14 PM): and lots of economic collapse and mega-death will go on
sign69 (4:56:44 PM): and I’ll watch it on tv in my nice safe warm home
SobriquetNecrosi (4:56:54 PM): lol
SobriquetNecrosi (4:56:58 PM): yeah yeah
sign69 (4:57:22 PM): or I’ll be dead because this incarnation doesn’t want me around
sign69 (4:57:50 PM): basically 2012 suits me except it is too far away
sign69 (4:58:13 PM): as you know I don’t see any future for me based on what I have experienced thus far
sign69 (4:58:32 PM): so the crazier stuff gives me some hope
SobriquetNecrosi (5:00:12 PM): .
SobriquetNecrosi (5:00:15 PM): :-)
SobriquetNecrosi (5:00:30 PM): It would take a beast of a hacker to bring the cash cow down
SobriquetNecrosi (5:00:36 PM): hehehe global beast
SobriquetNecrosi (5:01:05 PM): …and that could happen at any time
sign69 (5:01:26 PM): ew
sign69 (5:01:29 PM): yup
SobriquetNecrosi (5:01:30 PM): Now…if they chose 2012 to do it. Then congrats, you have won the lottery, and entered a new game without money
SobriquetNecrosi (5:01:33 PM): lol
sign69 (5:01:50 PM): either way I’m done for
sign69 (5:02:51 PM): hahaha
sign69 (5:02:52 PM): it doesn’t take much for the system to falter enough to make huge problems
sign69 (5:06:55 PM): depends which system and where the problems go I guess
SobriquetNecrosi (5:07:02 PM): Do you fancy yourself the guy who is going find and prove a theory of someone else being correct?
sign69 (5:07:06 PM): I have landed badly methinks
SobriquetNecrosi (5:07:15 PM): You’re going to find the perfect way this world ends?
sign69 (5:07:33 PM): I wasn’t thinking in those terms
SobriquetNecrosi (5:07:40 PM): Life is what it is…try not be too afraid during the ride
SobriquetNecrosi (5:07:45 PM): It isn’t;t easy, I know
sign69 (5:07:48 PM): more in terms of what is possible in life
SobriquetNecrosi (5:07:52 PM): Everyone feels fear
sign69 (5:08:03 PM): dunno
SobriquetNecrosi (5:08:05 PM): But it has ruled you for so long now
sign69 (5:08:23 PM): most people are generally within their security limits aren’t they?
SobriquetNecrosi (5:08:24 PM): Perhaps rest in knowing it could be a lot fucking worse than it is now
SobriquetNecrosi (5:08:43 PM): You mean most people have money?
sign69 (5:08:48 PM): what I am interested in is better not worse
sign69 (5:09:11 PM): um most people have associations and familiarities I believe
sign69 (5:09:23 PM): stupid to talk in terms of most people
SobriquetNecrosi (5:09:38 PM): You live in your memories…the past rules your decisions to move forward
sign69 (5:09:41 PM): the case that interests me is me of course
sign69 (5:09:58 PM): stop the loop before it starts
sign69 (5:10:42 PM): I live here and my memories guide my expectations I guess
sign69 (5:11:05 PM): like when you project your expectations onto whatever you like
sign69 (5:12:11 PM): it isn’t without some kind of prevalent behavior of humans in general
sign69 (5:13:29 PM): and I take your POV as being down on me personally as the same judgements wouldn’t seem to pan out evenly etc
sign69 (5:13:45 PM): and hence as my only pal right now I go into depression spiral at the bleakness
SobriquetNecrosi (5:14:05 PM): Well, it doesn’t mean that your POV is right, now does it?
sign69 (5:14:16 PM): ?
sign69 (5:14:20 PM): nope
SobriquetNecrosi (5:14:31 PM): Who says how you see everything, is factual…rather than personalized
sign69 (5:14:34 PM): but I don’t have the solid core
sign69 (5:14:42 PM): most people don’t I’d guess
sign69 (5:14:57 PM): facts can be a common ground
sign69 (5:15:07 PM): but not if they are denied etc
sign69 (5:15:41 PM): and also facts like the world at large aren’t necessarily “fair” to our eyes
SobriquetNecrosi (5:15:47 PM): You state that you have never had any good memories…basically claiming that it is all consuming bad. But you deny the glimpse of good times altogether.
sign69 (5:15:59 PM): nah
SobriquetNecrosi (5:16:00 PM): Does this mean those glimpses never happened?
sign69 (5:16:05 PM): you are twisting it
sign69 (5:16:15 PM): I said I had glimpses
SobriquetNecrosi (5:16:16 PM): Nope…it means you are focused on the other part
sign69 (5:16:27 PM): very nice glimpses
sign69 (5:16:51 PM): the glimpses included a great deal of pain of course as I tried to hold on
sign69 (5:17:08 PM): the perceived imbalance
SobriquetNecrosi (5:17:17 PM): Think about it this way instead: You could be living outside in a cardboard box, with no food, no means of income, and your computer…but with no electricity
SobriquetNecrosi (5:17:19 PM): lol
SobriquetNecrosi (5:17:32 PM): Now how fucked are you if you look at how much worse it could be?
sign69 (5:17:51 PM): as fucked as I am now
SobriquetNecrosi (5:18:08 PM): :-) Cheer up Charlie…Tim Burton found your dad in the new version of Willy Wonka’ssssss adventures
SobriquetNecrosi (5:18:12 PM): LOL
SobriquetNecrosi (5:18:17 PM): erm, I digress ;-)
sign69 (5:18:30 PM): didn’t see the film
sign69 (5:18:50 PM): the situation is very bleak
sign69 (5:18:58 PM): so I should just avoid it
sign69 (5:19:19 PM): I am grasping at straws as usual
sign69 (5:19:48 PM): either the universe opens a path or it doesn’t
